What MQM loses when out of government?



  • Najam Sethi repeatedly mentioned in his talk show “Aapas Ki Baat” that MQM will always be in a government as it will take a loss whenever MQM is out of the government. I recall it happened only once during a cut-short term of Nawaz Sharif government. Can anyone tell what MQM loses when it is in the opposition?

    On the other hand what MQM benefited extraordinarily in last five years? Lets not talk about the current interim shelved position of MQM.



  • Last five years in government were total failure for MQM, they lost everything and good will they earned for miraculous development achieved during Mustafa Kamal Nazim Era.



  • Just like all feudal lords of the rural areas of Pakistan, MQM need to control the state machinery, especially the police, to have an iron-grip on the city. If MQM is not in the government, someone else like JI, PMLN, PTI, or religious parties can break the barrier and gain strength; this is not something MQM can afford. They also need to be part of government to protect their thugs, like Ajmal Pahari (اجمل پہاڑی) from law enforcement agencies. If they don't have their friendly government, their militant wing will be minimized to an extent where they wouldn't be able to harass and kill their opponents and media critics.

    I don't see a difference between a typical 'jagir dar' or 'wadera' and MQM in that respect; both use state machinery to wipe out their opponents.



  • Arain 71,

    The day you remove biased curtain from your brain, may you would be able to sing some new song than this flop story.



  • @Ghost Protocol Bhai,

    AOA, nice to see you after a long time.

    Don't take seriously PMLNar comments.

    Most of PMLNar comments based on the knowledge gained by reading columns of 2cents columnists.

    They don't know that most of JI's kids are also die hard workers of MQM, even JI can't publish list of their 50 resident workers under age of 35 years.

    They don't know there is no any resident representation of JUI in Karachi all JUI supporter are residing in Madrasas and brought from different part of Pakistan.

    They don't know there is no even any political churiya called PMLN in Karachi after Shekhani, Capt. Haleem Siddique and Ijaz Shafi, they were also nothing before MQM but at least they were but rejected by Karachiities long before



  • @Khan Sb.

    MQM has experienced paying heavy cost of life while sitting in opposition. Whenever MQM sits in opposition, both PPP and PMLN tried to crush MQM by conducting operation against innocent Karachiites.

    Further these feudal lords of Sindh create conspiracy and spread hatred theories between urban and rural area of Sindh which cause ethnic crises whenever MQM sits in opposition.

    MQM sits in government just to do development in their area maintain harmony between urban and rural Sindh.

    But this time the situation is different they were not able to stop Lahore Gov. sponsored LeJ and TTP terrorists.



  • @BitterTruth

    Bhai are you talking about MQM Haqeeqi or Bhai wali MQM, a lot of Haqeeqi fellows are living while hiding in Punjab, they say that there is head money on them. Also bhai log did demolished their head office, I don't think PG was involved in that particular incident.

    Do you remember 12 May; the fateful day when a chief Justice of Pakistan supreme court tried to visit Karachi, PMLn was definitely behind whatever happened that day. People were burnt alive, lawyers in a building, with doors locked. The same way some hundred of workers in a factory were burned alive later on. Obviously PMLn and LeJ are behind that as well.

    Some times its the TTP, some times its BLA and most of the time PG, MQM kae bhai log are all saints.



  • ^^^^^

    1- When MET police searched and interrogated London based British Don office for 2 days then Lahore Govt. sponsored LeJ and TTP terrorists were also behind that incident?

    2- In last 5 years almost half a dozen times, MQM quit PPP govt for FEW days and then rejoined again. Is it also Lahore Govt. sponsored LeJ and TTP terrorists plan?

    3- MQM' decision to sit in opposition for ONE month after enjoying the iqtidaar for ONLY 4 years-11 months, did Lahore Govt. sponsored LeJ and TTP terrorists forced MQM to sit in opposition for complete ONE month?



  • @Ghost Protocol

    All MQM supportes must admit that MQM has taken their voters for granted. Whether they deliver anything for their constituents or not, they consider themselves entitled to have the vote of Karachiites. It's a shame that in a democracy where politicians and political parties have to earn each and every vote from their constituencies, a party like MQM can get away after displaying sheer incompetence during the last 5 years. A local government is not the ONLY way to bring development work and projects to your constituencies, as MQM whines all the time. They should have asked for mega projects for Karachi and Hyderabad in exchange for their support to the federal and Sindh government. But, in reality, they asked for ministries for themselves. But amazingly, no voter is ever going to hold them accountable.

    So, you need to enlighten your brain a little to see for yourself. Anti Punjab slogans got MQM to where they are now, but 21st century demands more than that.



  • Arain bhai,

    "All MQM supportes must admit that MQM has taken their voters for granted."

    Is it your order,opinion,conclusion or something else?

    "It's a shame that in a democracy where politicians and political parties have to earn each and every vote from their constituencies"

    I started recounting great achievements of sharifs,choudrys,rajas,maakhdooms,tawanas,etc etc etc that earned them seats in national assemblies, believe me my computer is out of memory.... you are so funny.

    "A local government is not the ONLY way to bring development work and projects to your constituencies, as MQM whines all the time"

    here you go, when CM of 60% of Pakistan enjoying absolute power could only present achievements comparable to local government, this lecture need to be directed towards him.

    "But amazingly, no voter is ever going to hold them accountable."

    Your sheer frustration can be understood buddy, just take it that way. Let voters decide whats best in their interest.

    "Anti Punjab slogans got MQM to where they are now, but 21st century demands more than that."

    Care to mention any anti punjabi slogan that MQM had adapted?



  • If we look back history of Karachi/hyderabad politics most of the time both cities were end up in anti-govt/establishment zone. Developments project need government support at Fed level and Sindh Govt level.

    As long as MQM is winning all or more then 80% of seats from both cities they should stick to government unless there is no other option in other words Karachi / hyderbad need representation in Government. via MQM or through JI / PTI.

    Imagine No one from south Punjab is in goverment of Punjab or fed level?? how much work will get done ?



  • Several political, administrative and social problems do arise in all the countries without any exception. Pakistan is no exceptional with regards to several political, administrative and social problems.

    The real main problem in Pakistan is that no problem is analyzed rationally and no adequate solution is sought and applied. We lost more than half of our country about 42 years ago due to our lack of comprehension of problem and then inadequate solution.



  • What MQM loses when out of government?

    • Free flow of bhatta or extortion money

    • No more hide snatching

    • Na-Maloom (unknown) afrad become Maloom (known) afraad and turns out to be MQM terrorists

    • Cannot release captured target killers by eliminating witnesses and threatening prosecutors.



  • JI was the strongest political party in Karachi before the rise of MQM. JI leader could not take good care of their major vote bank and the city fell into the hands of MQM. Altaf Hussain was a failed politician. He took the advantage of the criminal silence of JI during the 4 days consecutive bloodbath in Karachi.



  • @amir_ali Sb.

    PMLn was definitely behind whatever happened that day. People were burnt alive, lawyers in a building, with doors locked

    You intended pun but right here.

    Terrorism in three provinces were done by terrorist exported from Punjab and sponsored by Punjab Govt.



  • What MQM loses when out of government?

    • Free flow of bhatta or extortion money

    • No more hide snatching

    • Na-Maloom (unknown) afrad become Maloom (known) afraad and turns out to be MQM terrorists

    • Cannot release captured target killers by eliminating witnesses and threatening prosecutors.

    @Sulaiman Dar bhai,

    PMLN, after leaving govt long back, still have free hand of Federal Govt and legal sponsorship of CJP for spreading terrorism through out the country and burning minorties in Lahore.

    Kiya yeh Khula Tazad Nahi hey



  • If MQM supporters are 'proud' of the the accomplishments during the last 5 years, then I can just pity them; when you guys vote, you certainly don't ask for much in return.

    MQM is the only party that has a militant wing. To counter them, all factions of Karachi; for instance, PPP, ANP, and JI to an extent, have also adopted the same practices. To run these militant wings, all parties have to engage in bhata khori, otherwise how would you pay these crooks. I laugh at MQM sympathizers when they brush off these allegations of buatta khori, bori-band bodies, and target killings as JI and PMLN propaganda. You need to understand that PMLN is almost non existing in Karachi, so PMLN has no quarrel with MQM because their constituencies don't clash. The only reason, all Muslim Leaguees despise MQM is because they have introduced a culture that has ruined, rather decimated, Karachi, the economic hub of Pakistan.

    How do you think Altaf keeps all his party intact while sitting comfortably in London? It's not his vision, popularity, or holiness but his terror, horror, or woefulness. Azeem Ahmed Tariq was a moderate voice and he had to be silenced; Imran Farooq wanted to launch his own party, so he had be eliminated.

    قائد کا جو غدّار ہے

    وہ موت کا حقدار ہے

    Why MQM wants to be in the government all the times? Well, to protect Altaf's power. Anybody who thinks that the source of Altaf's power is in the people of Karachi is naive; his true power lies in his thugs whom he uses to silence any dissent.

    It's unfortunate that the history will remember MQM by:

    (1) Ajmal Pahari,

    (2) Farooq Tunda,

    (3) Kamran Madhuri, and

    (4) Sohain Commando.

    If MQM supporters are too chicken to condemn these terrorists openly, at least be quiet and do it in your hearts, but, for haven's sake, don't defend them.



  • ^^^ and also for

    5. The namalom afrad

    @BitterTruth

    Bhai I was obviously being sarcastic, but were u trying to return a pun? Pervez Ellahi was handling PG then, under Pervez Musharaf.

    I wonder when our dear neighbor India would start to point finger at PG after any mishap that they would have.



  • BT,

    PMLN, after leaving govt long back, still have free hand of Federal Govt and legal sponsorship of CJP for spreading terrorism through out the country and burning minorties in Lahore.

    I suggest next time you address some thing to me atleast try to make some sense.



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