'Jihadi John' or the boy next door?



  • London (CNN)Mohammed Emwazi: The world knows him better as "Jihadi John," the man whose masked face and British accented-taunts have featured in a series of brutal ISIS execution videos.

    But many of those who grew up with him have told the UK media that remember Emwazi altogether differently: as the typical "boy next door," a popular kid who loved football, pop music and The Simpsons.

    A day after the long-standing mystery behind Jihadi John's identity was solved, clues to his past have begun to emerge -- but far from showing him as a violent extremist, they paint a picture of an ordinary child and teenager growing up in the British capital.

    Emwazi was born in Kuwait in 1988, and moved to the UK with his parents, Jasem and Ghaneya, and sister at the age of six, according to CAGE, an advocacy group for those affected by terrorism investigations.

    The family settled down in west London; Emwazi's father is reported to have worked as a taxi driver, while his mother stayed at home to look after Emwazi and his siblings.

    He is reported to have attended St Mary Magdalene Church of England Primary School, in London's Maida Vale; a photograph published on the front pages of several British newspapers showed a smiling young boy in the school's scarlet sweater uniform, surrounded by his classmates and teacher -- a far cry from the black-clad jihadi infamous around the world.

    When contacted by CNN, the school's headteacher refused to comment. On its website, the school -- whose motto is "believe, achieve and succeed together" -- proudly proclaims: "We are a very inclusive, multicultural and diverse school, where many languages and religions reside happily under one roof."

    A former classmate there told the Daily Mail newspaper that Emwazi was sporty and popular, but had initially struggled with English: "He could only say a few words at first, like his name and where he was from.

    "He played football every lunchtime and at the after-school football club. Through football, he learned different words and expressions."

    The paper reported that, writing in a class yearbook aged 10, Emwazi told of his love for pop group S Club 7, The Simpsons, the shoot-'em-up computer game Duke Nukem and -- like so many other British children -- listed his favourite food as chips.

    After leaving St Mary Magdalene, Emwazi is believed to have moved on to the Quintin Kynaston Academy in neighboring St. John's Wood, whose alumni include singers Tulisa Contostavolos and Shola Ama; his sister later became a prefect there.

    One of his classmates -- speaking on condition of anonymity -- told the Daily Telegraph newspaper he was a "typical north-west London boy."

    "He seemed like a nice guy ... a down-to-earth person and humble. He liked football and he was friends with everyone. All the Indian boys, all the Pakistani boys, people from different religions, he spoke to everyone."

    A neighbor of the Emwazi family told CNN he was a "polite young man."

    A former teacher told Britain's Channel 4 News that Emwazi was "a diligent hardworking lovely young man. Responsible, polite, quiet. He was everything that you'd want a student to be.

    "He was somebody who would always seek the correct way of handling something. He did things in the right way," she insisted. "There was never any indication of any violence at all."

    The unidentified educator said her ex-pupil "was religious ... and I think as he got older he did become more devout. He would go to the mosque on Fridays and pray but a lot of our kids did that."

    Emwazi apparently did well enough at the school to go on to Westminster University in London; he completed a degree in 2009.

    Asim Qureshi, research director of CAGE, insists that the Mohammed Emwazi he knew was "very kind, extremely gentle, [a] humble individual, who didn't have any self-importance about himself."

    Intelligence services and terrorism experts are now piecing together just how he went from that to the infamous "bogeyman" of ISIS -- something which continues to puzzle many of those who knew him as a boy.

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/27/europe/jihadi-john-mohammed-emwazi-childhood/index.html



  • Why 'Jihadi John' is so worrying

    The revelations Thursday over the identity of "Jihadi John" -- that he apparently grew up and was educated in Britain, and that he has a degree in computing from Westminster University in London -- have left us with some profoundly troubling issues.

    It appears clear that security authorities have known for some time who he is, but kept this fact hidden, either, one assumes, because they were attempting to capture him or because they were trying to protect his family from vigilantes. Whatever the reason, the fact that he had the benefit of higher education (and had picked up state of the art IT skills) once again highlights how our education system fails to protect either us, the citizens of a free country, or the students themselves from the violent horrors of Islamism.

    Meanwhile, the fact that many British universities this month stated they will continue to resist the proposals made by the government in the latest counterterrorism legislation (including imposing on them a duty to keep extremists off their campuses and notify the authorities if they believe their students have been brainwashed by them) is nothing short of a total national disgrace.

    But the news surrounding Mohammed Emwazi, identified by the Washington Post as a Kuwaiti-born Londoner, raises a few other points worth noting.

    First of all, by giving him a name, we give his victims' loved ones the hope that he may be captured or brought to trial at some future date. The release of his name could also deter him from further acts of unspeakable sadism, or perhaps make some of his comrades with the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria rethink some of their plans. And it might even prompt some young European to think twice about going out to live and die for ISIS.

    This case also makes it clear that the time has now come for a new U.N. declaration or Atlantic Charter to the effect that these Islamist war criminals will be hunted down, and that retribution for their crimes will be sought, just as we pursued the Nazi war criminals at Nuremberg and elsewhere. Comprehensive lists of ISIS members should be drawn up as a matter of urgency.

    In addition, the time has come to review what can be done to stop young Muslim men and women from joining the ranks of the jihadis. Education has a part to play, but it is plain that whatever has been done so far has not been adequate. New, more proactive measures may be required.

    At the same time, it is also self-evident that education alone is not enough. Instead, we also need effective intelligence-led security policies that must include letting our intelligence agencies access electronic data in their search of jihadi recruitment campaigns. This is the only way we have to protect everyone.

    We know, thanks to Edward Snowden and his friends, that our ability to monitor and disrupt jihadists has declined by perhaps a third. Obviously, they continue to communicate, but either they are doing so in ways we find increasingly hard to track, or our security agencies are so fearful of being tarred as "snoopers" that they have become far too cautious about investigating those who want to do us grave harm.

    Finally, it must surely be clear to Western leaders that as long as President Barack Obama refuses to dismantle ISIS as a political entity in the only way possible -- by putting boots on the ground -- Islamism will continue to present us in the West with a monumental threat. Sadly, it is one which will grow, fueled as it is by those we have educated with great care and to whom we have taught some of our most useful skills.

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/26/opinion/glees-jihadi-john/index.html



  • Jihad John & Toronto Jane... seems like a match made in heaven!

    Oh wait this is 2015, election year in Britain and Canada where two conservative PM's/governments are battling close election fights against liberal challengers. So peeps keep your popcorn ready for more fear mongering stories with some local twist in upcoming days. After all what else sale better then this with conservative voters and this bring them out in folds on election day!

    http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/01/30/isis-sympathizers-road-to-jihad-from-canada-to-syria-to-iraq-tracked-one-tweet-at-a-time/



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  • Why these 'Johns' & 'Janes' always turn out to be British, American or Western educated, and would probably be on the radar of MI6, FBI and CIA as per CNN, BBC & FOX before suddenly appearing one day on these soap opera videos that no one really knows when and where and who recorded them??



  • It is hard to comprehend, why this bloody zombie with name "Jihadi John" is discussed.

    Is this Khawarjee is going to fight in Israel or Indian occupied Kashmir?

    No No No No No No No No No..............................

    This bloody zombie is going to fight in a Muslim Country and against Muslims. This zombie may kill few of our Muslim brothers.

    UK MI 6 created Lawrence of Arabia for revolt against Ottoman Caliphates. UK propagated him Hero for Arabs, as he arranged brutal killing of Muslim soldiers of Turkish Army.

    Muslims should think of death before projecting any Khawrajee Zombie. Do project one as jihadi who is fighting in Kafir Country (Israel or Indian Occupied Kashmir) for Muslims.

    One who fight in a Muslim country and against Muslim Government is a Khawarjee and bloody Zombie.



  • Missing UK teens seen on video in Turkey before going to Syria

    (CNN)Three teen British girls suspected of traveling to Syria to join ISIS appeared on surveillance video in Turkey before they went to their destination.

    Images show the teens boarding a bus in Istanbul, Turkish HBR television reported. It's the first sighting of the girls since they left London almost two weeks ago.

    Authorities have said they have no reason to believe the girls are still in Turkey and believe they have crossed into neighboring Syria, parts of which have been taken over by Islamist terror group ISIS.

    The three east London classmates -- Shamima Begum, 15; Kadiza Sultana, 16; and Amira Abase, 15 -- boarded a Turkish Airlines plane from London's Gatwick Airport to Istanbul on February 17.

    A British counterterrorism officer said police had tried to reach out to the girls using the Turkish media and social media to persuade them to return home.

    The girls' parents have also publicly begged for them to come home.

    Reaching out to ISIS recruiter

    Days before they left for Turkey, at least one of the girls allegedly contacted a young woman, Aqsa Mahmood, who left her home in Scotland to travel to Syria in 2013 and is accused of trying to recruit others via social media.

    The Mahmood family condemned their daughter's actions, describing them "as a perverted and evil distortion" of Islam.

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/01/europe/turkey-uk-missing-girls/index.html



  • FBI Arrests 3 Men For Allegedly Plotting To Join Islamic State In Syria

    The FBI has arrested three men from Brooklyn for allegedly plotting to join the so-called Islamic State in Syria.

    In a press release, the Justice Department said that the men — two citizens of Uzbekistan and one a citizen of Kazakhstan — have been charged with conspiracy to provide material support to a foreign terrorist organization.

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2015/02/25/389014242/fbi-arrests-three-men-for-allegedly-plotting-to-join-islamic-state-in-syria



  • The biggest worry for the West is why these educated youngsters are joining a terrorist organization. How to deal with home grown terrorism.

    They can start with tightening the immigration poloicies and put a stop to all activities/visits by "tableeghi jamaat" and other similar organizations.



  • There is no worry for west. Please read comments above before propagating this theme.

    What is Black Water Army and hat is motive behind that hired criminals/gangsters are ready to give their lives in world worst environments like in Iraq even.

    Read about Black Water.......

    Adventure, vengeance to misfortunes and hatred for Islam bring them to should hands with Khawarjees.

    After all they will have to fight or share bed with Khawarjees who are fighting against and in Muslim countries only.

    Propagate individuals who are fighting against Israel aggression in Palestine and India aggression in Indian Occupied Kashmir. You will hardly find any.....



  • Another interesting fact about these poster boys of Al Qaida and ISIS is that almost all of them were in contact with at least one of the western agencies like CIA, FBI, MI6 or MOSSAD just before earning the notoriety over the western mass propaganda channels for their evil deeds.

    Starting from Osama to Zawahiri to Zarqawi to Baghdadi and now to Emwazi, all of them were in the custody of these western agencies just before their killing spree.



  • According to Sulaiman Dar sahib from Osama-AZawahiri-Zarqawi-Baghdadi-Emwazi, all were on the lap of CIA/Pentagon. I also agree with this fact, but Dar sahib committed dishonesty when he typed a full stop. Kudos to Western Intelligence that they bred a group of terrorists who are killing/beheading Muslims, most probably in the name of family planning in Muslim population. Right at their door step is Israel, but no, Israelis are good beautiful people, better kill our own Muslim brothers and sisters, easy to capture, easy to kill. At least they hit headlines in the media.

    Why females are getting themselves dipped into this black hole is beyond my flight of imagination. And don't tell me they are impressed by the ISIS Islamic teachings or call for Jihad. Islamic teachings could be spread within the region they lived and Jihad is not killing Muslims. So what are these ladies doing there? I do not think sex is the only attraction - life is short and precious. Presence of beautiful ladies in the fold of ISIS is like decisive step to leap to ISIL by those hesitant jihadists living in other regions.

    It looks to me a bigger game. All like minded or brainwashed Muslims are being gathered in one region. This region is mostly plain region and hardly big mountainous like Afghanistan. So it will be easier for West to wipe out them in short period of time and nothing like what happened in Afghanistan/Pakistan. Even Talibans are migrating to ISIL. I foresee a final count down. The problem with West is how to cover the hide outs in case of final head on head war covered by air attack. There is a great danger of their escaping and fleeing out in other areas of the world. The lull tells a big storm.



  • The truth about ISIS from a non-Muslim western source:

    Watch after 4:00 onward..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK5ZAapfylQ



  • Jihadi John could soon be next OBL, could be next hero of Muslim world.



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    Another interesting fact about these poster boys of Al Qaida and ISIS is that almost all of them were in contact with at least one of the western agencies like CIA, FBI, MI6 or MOSSAD just before earning the notoriety over the western mass propaganda channels for their evil deeds.

    Starting from Osama to Zawahiri to Zarqawi to Baghdadi and now to Emwazi, all of them were in the custody of these western agencies just before their killing spree.

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    افشاں – ڈيجيٹل آؤٹ ريچ ٹيم – يو ايس اسٹيٹ ڈيپارٹمينٹ

    آپ کا کھوکھلا دعوی نا صرف يہ کہ حقائق کے منافی ہے بلکہ منطقی اعتبار سے بھی ناقابل فہم ہے۔ کيا آپ واقعی يہ سمجھتے ہيں کہ "جہادی جان" جيسے افراد ہمارے اشاروں پر کام کرنے کے ليے راضی ہو جائيں گے – يہ جانتے ہوۓ کہ ہم ديگر مبينہ ايجنڈوں کا برسوں سے نا صرف يہ کہ تعاقب کر رہے ہيں بلکہ انھيں ٹارگٹ بھی کر رہے ہیں؟

    آپ کے اس دعوے کا غير منطقی ہونا اس حقيقت کی روشنی ميں مزید اجاگر ہو جاتا ہے کہ وہ دہشت گرد ليڈر جنھيں آپ ہمارے ايجنٹ ہونے کا تاثر دے رہے ہيں نا صرف يہ کہ ہميں مطلوب انتہائ اہم دہشت گردوں کی لسٹ کا حصہ ہيں بلکہ کئ تو ايسے ہيں جو ہماری ہی براہراست کوششوں کے نتيجے ميں اپنے انجام کو پہنچے ہیں۔ يہاں تک کہ القائدہ کے ليڈر ايمن الظواہری اور ديگر اہم کارندے آج ہماری ہی فوجی کاروائ اور ان کے محفوظ ٹھکانوں کو ختم کرنے کے ليے اپنے اتحاديوں کے ساتھ ہماری شراکت داری کے سبب ہی فرار کا راستہ اختيار کرنے پر مجبور ہيں۔ اور بہت جلد يہ بھی اپنے پيشترو کی طرح اپنے انجام سے دوچار ہوں گے اور مزيد دھمکی آميز بيانات دينے کے قابل نہيں رہيں گے۔

    ميرا آپ سے سوال يہ ہے کہ اگر "جہادی جان" اور دیگر دہشت گرد جن کے نام آپ نے ليے واقعی امريکی ايجنٹ ہيں تو پھر ہم اپنے ہی مبينہ "اثاثوں" کو نشانہ کيوں بنا رہے ہيں؟ اور پھر اسی منطق کے تحت اگر ہم ان دہشت گردوں کو نشانہ بنا رہے ہيں تو پھر کيونکر يہ افراد ہمارے ايماء پر کام کرنے پر راضی ہوں گے جبکہ وہ اس حقيقت سے پوری طرح آشنا ہيں کہ ہم ان کے ليڈروں اور ان کے محفوظ ٹھکانوں کو ختم کرنے کے ليے اپنے تمام تر وسائل بروۓ کار لا رہے ہيں؟

    کيا يہ نہيں ہو سکتا کہ دہشت گرد تنظيميں اور ان سے منسلک مجرم ہی ہيں جو اپنے الفاظ اور اعمال سے اپنے ارادے واضح کر رہے ہيں کہ وہ ہمارے مشترکہ دشمن ہيں اور ہميں ان مشترکہ کاوشوں پر توجہ مرکوز کرنی چاہيے جو ان کے محفوظ ٹھکانوں کو ختم کرنے اور روزانہ کی بنياد پر بے رحم حملے کرنے کی ان کی صلاحيتوں کو سلب کرنے کے ضمن ميں کی جا رہی ہيں۔

    کوئ بھی تعميری ذہن يہ ناقابل ترديد حقيقت ديکھ سکتا ہے۔ ان تنظيموں کا واضح کردہ مقصد اور اس ضمن ميں بے شمار شواہد موجود ہيں۔ غلط تاثرات پر مبنی مبہم سازشی کہانياں ان کے خونی نظريے کو جلا بخشنے کا سبب بنتی ہيں

    افشاں – ڈيجيٹل آؤٹ ريچ ٹيم – يو ايس اسٹيٹ ڈيپارٹمينٹ

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  • افشاں

    ضروری نہیں کہ آپکے ابو جی اندر کی ساری باتیں بھی آپکو بتائیں۔

    چونکے آپکو صرف رٹے رٹائے جملے بولنے کے لیے دیہاڑی پر رکھا گیا ہے اس لیے آپکا دماغ ایسی باریک باتیں سمجھنے کے لیے ابھی بالکل ناکارہ ہے۔

    یہ ویڈیو ملاحظہ کریں اس میں آپکے ایک عدد ابو جی خلیفہ بغدادی صاحب سے ملاقاتیں کر رہے ہیں اور انہیں سمجھا رہے ہیں کہ صیہونی خلافت کیسے چلائی جاتی ہے۔

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  • @سلیمان ڈار

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    ضروری نہیں کہ آپکے ابو جی اندر کی ساری باتیں بھی آپکو بتائیں۔

    چونکے آپکو صرف رٹے رٹائے جملے بولنے کے لیے دیہاڑی پر رکھا گیا ہے اس لیے آپکا دماغ ایسی باریک باتیں سمجھنے کے لیے ابھی بالکل ناکارہ ہے۔

    یہ ویڈیو ملاحظہ کریں اس میں آپکے ایک عدد ابو جی خلیفہ بغدادی صاحب سے ملاقاتیں کر رہے ہیں اور انہیں سمجھا رہے ہیں کہ صیہونی خلافت کیسے چلائی جاتی ہے۔

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    افشاں – ڈيجيٹل آؤٹ ريچ ٹيم – يو ايس اسٹيٹ ڈيپارٹمينٹ

    محترم ڈار صاحب،

    آپ نے پہلے يہ دعوی کيا تھا کہ "جہادی جان" کے روابط امريکی حکومت کی ايجينسيوں کے ساتھ رہے ہيں۔ تاہم اپنے دعوے کو تقويت دينے کے ليے کوئ قابل قبول شواہد پيش کرنے کی بجاۓ آپ نے سينيٹر مکين کی انھی پرانی تصاوير کا حوالہ دے ديا جن پر بارہا گفتگو کی جا چکی ہے۔

    ستم ظريفی ديکھيں کہ ايک جانب تو آپ اپنے الزامات کے ردعمل ميں ميرے جواب کو اس بنياد پر قبول کرنے کے ليے تيار نہيں ہيں کيونکہ آپ کی دانست ميں امريکہ کی عالمی سازشيں اتنی خفيہ اور گھمبير ہيں کہ ان کے متعلق معلومات ميری دسترس سے باہر ہيں مگر پھر دوسری جانب آپ انھی پيچيدہ سازشوں کو بآسانی محض گوگل سے سينيٹر مکين کی تناظر سے ہٹ کر حاصل کی گئ چند تصاوير کی روشنی ميں اپنی دانست ميں بے نقاب کرنے ميں کامياب ہو چکے ہيں۔

    جہاں تک سينيٹر مکين کی تصاوير کا تعلق ہے جن کا آپ حوالہ دے رہے ہيں تو وہ مئ 2013 ميں ان کے شام کے دورے کے دوران لی گئ تھيں۔ يقینی طور پر انھوں نے "فی سيرين آرمی" کے جنگجوؤں سے ملاقات کی تھی ليکن ايسا اس وقت ہوا تھا جب سينيٹ کی فارن ريليشن کميٹی نے شام ميں حکومت کے خلاف برسرپيکار قوت کو ہتھيار فراہم کرنے کے ليے باقاعدہ بل کی منظوری تھی۔ امريکی حکومت کی جانب سے ان جاری عالمی کوششوں کا حصہ بننا جن کا مقصد شام کے عوام کی ايک ظالم حکمران کے خلاف مدد کرنا تھا، ايک جانی مانی اور سرکاری طور پر تسليم شدہ حقيقت ہے۔ ميں نہيں سمجھ سکی کہ کس منطق کے تحت آپ اس بات کو آئ ايس آئ ايس جيسی تنظيم کے ليے ہماری مبينہ مدد کے اپنے بے بنياد الزام کے ليے دليل اور ثبوت کے طور پر پيش کر رہے ہيں؟

    شام کے عوام کا ساتھ دينے کی پاداش ميں ہم پر تنقيد کرنے سے پہلے وہاں پر جاری خانہ جنگی کی صورت حال کو بھی مدنظر رکھيں جس کی بدولت طاقت کے نشے ميں چور جابر حکمران کے ہاتھوں ہزاروں بے گناہ شہريوں کا قتل عام جاری ہے۔اور وہ بھی ايک ايسی حکومت کے ہاتھوں جو نا تو کسی عالمی قانون اور ضابطے کو خاطر ميں لا رہی ہے اور نا ہی عالمی براداری کی جانب سے اپيلوں پر کان دھر رہی ہے۔

    ريکارڈ کی درستگی کے ليے سينيٹر مکين کے آئ ايس آئ ايس کے حوالے سے موقف پر بھی ايک نظر ڈال ليں جس سے اس دعوی کی قلعی کھل جاتی ہے کہ وہ البغدادی سے مل کر اس تنظيم کے کسی بھی اقدام کی حمايت کے ليے کوششيں کريں گے۔

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/12/mccain-isis-syria-iraq-strategy

    کيا آپ واقعی يہ سمجھتے ہيں کہ آئ ايس آئ ايس کا ليڈر کسی بھی ايسے امريکی سياست دان سے ملاقات يا اس سے کسی بھی قسم کی تعاون کی پيشکش قبول کر لے گا جو عوامی سطح پر يہ مطالبہ کر رہا ہے کہ خطے ميں امريکی افواج کو بھيجا جاۓ تا کہ وہ آئ ايس آئ ايس کے جنگجوؤں کا براہراست مقابلہ کر سکيں؟

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  • That's an interesting news, give a good idea who facilitate Jihad Jan's are Johns and who knows what else they are facilitating for this ISIS circus.

    Canadian spy said to be detained in Turkey for helping British teens join ISIS

    http://www.torontosun.com/2015/03/12/man-who-helped-british-girls-into-syria-may-have-connection-with-csis

    Turkey detains 'spy' who 'helped British teens cross into Syria to join Islamic State'

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11467539/Turkey-detains-spy-who-helped-British-teens-cross-into-Syria-to-join-Islamic-State.html



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