Mob lynching - who is the culprit?



  • After Sunday’s attacks on two churches in Lahore’s Christian locality, Youhanabad, police arrested two suspects. Angry Mob took the two suspects from police and lynched them to death. Now the two unfortunate suspects are identified as glass factory worker - Naeem & garment factory worker Babar Noman.

    Interior minister and chief minister didn't waste any time in condemning the mob lynching. But should't they blame themselves for this unfortunate but recurring incidents?

    3-4 years ago a video footage of similar incident emerged from Sailkot where mob lynched two brothers suspected as thieves. The footage showed police as mere bystander watching the mob justice. Beside condemnation if few culprits were punished and certain protocols were established for police this could have been avoided. It's understandable police might not be able to control angry mob after such attacks. But one thing they can do is not to publicly arrest suspects to calm down public reaction. They have the right to arrest suspects from the crime scene but only if they have mechanism to drive them out safely.

    The ultimate responsibility of police reforms and prosecution falls under Shahbaz Sharif - the eternal ruler of Punjab. Half of his adult life he has been the ruler of Punjab. The champion of good governance doesn't have much on his record except few cheap media publicity stunts. Even this time I don't expect things to go beyond few condemnation statements.



  • I also blame Shahbaz Sharif and the Lahore administration for their complete failure to maintain and restore law and order in and around Youhanabad locality after the twin suicide bomb blasts.

    Besides Shahbaz Sharif, the Police and the local administration is also to be blame for the riots as they just let the frenzied mob to do all they can, specially the brutal killing of the two innocent persons and then damaging the public property.

    The Rangers must have been called earlier to control the mob and the use of water cannons was also too little too late. I think post Model Town incident police is very reluctant to get themselves involved in such a situation and prefer to be a bystander rather than performing their professional duty.



  • 'It's understandable police might not be able to control angry mob after such attacks. But one thing they can do is not to publicly arrest suspects to calm down public reaction. They have the right to arrest suspects from the crime scene but only if they have mechanism to drive them out safely.'

    bhai sherazi, attack kay chand minton baad jay-e-wardaat say mujramon ko pakrnay ki kia tuk hay? aur wo bhi khud kush dhamaky kay baad. :)))



  • This is what makes me mad.

    Shahbaz does blunder after blunder phir bhi iss kee good governance kee dhoom hai.



  • The question is what type of effect this latest mob lynching will have in the upcoming days. Will the incident slow down the Muslim extremists from committing atrocities against the minorities or actually fuel the dissonance among various religious groups in Pakistan?



  • @bsobaid

    When comparing the performance of Sindh, Punjab, and KPK, we don't look for who is doing the best buth rather who is doing less worse.

    اندھوں میں کانا راجہ



  • no, he is not even a kaana raja, he is just another andhaa.



  • Biggest culprit is the police to identify two as suspect just because they had beards.

    The overall responsibility is that both federal government and provincial governments don't have any will to do a 90 like operation against the madressas which preach hate, declare others kafir and wajibul qatl, protect terrorists, etc. But of course, that is not priority because those Takfiri madressas are either their own or close friends.



  • The culprit is Pakistani State for not providing justice to previous attacks on Christians and other minorities.

    Deobandi killers are roaming free and State is sleeping.



  • Afghanistan President Ashraf Ghani is hammered by US media on lynching of girl last Thursday in Kabul. There is no reprieve from ignorance.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/03/afghan-women-carry-body-lynched-woman-burial-150322112955432.html



  • "Afghanistan President Ashraf Ghani is hammered by US media on lynching of girl last Thursday in Kabul. There is no reprieve from ignorance."

    Wasn't this going on so-called Great Roman Empire ?

    Also, the bed of modern democracy - Britain?



  • """""

    Wasn't this going on so-called Great Roman Empire ?

    Also, the bed of modern democracy - Britain?

    """""

    What a comparison!! Curiousity sahib: That was then, this is now. Apples and oranges???? Shirazi sahib is talking about present scenario. There are three tenses in English grammar Past tense, Present tense and Future tense. Tarzan Jharh per charha huwa tha (past tense) Ek jhatke men neecha utarna parha (past tense). Tarzan assembly men jara hay (future tense). Waqt ke sath khiyalat badal jatay hain (moral lesson).

    Nota bene.



  • Tarzan assembly men jara hay (future tense).

    Is this not "present tense"?



  • "What a comparison!! Curiousity sahib: That was then, this is now. Apples and oranges???"

    It's that the western world has "progressed", they use more sophisticated ways of killing whom they don't like through instruments of governments. Due process is not given to either. Bodies are still mutilated and burnt.

    Present day carnage in Gaza a prime example where so-called civilized world looked on as spectators of that lynching with no consequences to the one doing "modern day" lynching.



  • @Curiousity bahi

    How can you equate Ghaza with what happened with Kabul or Lahore? Lynching is when your on Mob attacks your own people. In Ghaza Israeli soldiers and gunships attacked Palestinians.



  • @Shirazi Jee

    "How can you equate Ghaza with what happened with Kabul or Lahore? Lynching is when your on Mob attacks your own people. In Ghaza Israeli soldiers and gunships attacked Palestinians."

    Lynching is killing without legal authority, while rest of crowd either encourages the killers or let it happen even with a power to stop. There is no restriction about whether those being lynched belong to your own community or not. People doing lynching just have violent disagreement with those on the receiving end. The result of lynch is usually death with mutilation and/or burning. Lynching never solves the underlying problem.

    I have referred to killing in Gaza as "modern day" lynching as done by "progressed" countries.

    Did Israel had legal authority to do indiscriminate killing, targeting even UN shelters? Answer is emphatic NO.

    Did the rest of world, specially western world did anything to stop? Answer is emphatic NO.

    Were there large number of innocent who were killed? Answer is emphatic Yes

    Was there any consequences for the group for killing the innocent? Answer is emphatic NO.

    Was the underlying problem resolved by lynching? Answer is emphatic NO.

    Will that happen again? Answer is most probably yes.

    As I said, lynching still exists in different form in mordern day of "progressed world". World might have scientifically progressed but those morally degraded views of not respecting others life have in some sense become worse.



  • @curiousity jee

    There was a war between Israel and Arabs, and Israel won. Israeli strikes on Palestinians is almost always done in reaction. It's not lynching.

    Now suppose if the situation had been reverse. In the case of Arab victory, there wouldn't have been any Jew left in Israel. Their women would have been made sex slaves.

    I have never seen a victor who lets the loser manage the most sacred place of the victor. A Muslim Waqf board manages the Al Aqsa mosque and the dome of rock. Israelis need permission from the Waqf for all activities in and around the dome of rock. That's called generosity.



  • @Anjaan dear, not long ago you were arguing with me that there shouldn't be a figure of speech in a language, and now you are confused with past and present tense. A language is never one dimensional. Perhaps linguistic tricks isn't your domain. :-)



  • "Perhaps linguistic tricks isn't your domain"

    You are right. I don't play tricks. That is the domain of Joginder Singh!!



  • @Qarar Jee

    "There was a war between Israel and Arabs, and Israel won. Israeli strikes on Palestinians is almost always done in reaction. It's not lynching."

    I am not talking about war between Israel and Arabs, which happened more than 40 years ago. I am taking about land occupied by Israel, which has to be governed under international laws by Israel. PalestinIan's living in Gaza and West Bank deserve the minimum per international law. Israel becomes lyncher as when it decides to indiscriminately kill people residing in Gaza by any means while voilating all international laws.