PPP for using Nadra data instead of conducting census



  • January 05, 2016

    Print : Karachi

    When the government already has a reliable database of the country’s population in terms of the records available with the National Database and Registration Authority (Nadra), then what is the logic behind spending Rs14.5 billion on a “door-to-door” census, a misguided effort that has repeatedly failed?

    These were the views of general secretary of the Pakistan People’s Party’s Sindh chapter, Senator Taj Haider, in a statement issued on Monday.

    According to him, the “obsolete” methodology of “door-to-door count” had always been hijacked by militant groups who manipulate figures to their own advantage. He said the database

    available with Nadra was accurate and was also used in making electoral rolls, disbursement of stipends under the Benazir Income Support Programme (BISP) and the nationwide poverty survey comprising of 48 questions that provided detailed information about households, even more than collected by the Census.

    Haider said rigging in the national elections was helped by the fact that delimitations of constituencies took place on a “faulty census” done in 1998 using this “door-to-door” method. On the other hand, he said, the voters’ lists were prepared on the basis of Nadra database.

    He said there should be a single, scientific and reliable database on which all provincial and national programmes are built.

    He said efforts should be made for improving the available database of Nadra in a scientific manner to include the small percentage of population which remain uncovered. He said economic migration should be factored in the “present address” column, rather than repeating a “failed experiment” of door-to-door count over again. Haider, in his statement, also attached a population count of Karachi as a sample that had been provided to him by Nadra in “just forty minutes” two years ago.



  • NADRA can't replace census. Not everyone is registered in NADRA or even is eligible to be registered in NADRA but census should take into account every soul legal or illegal, local or foreigner.



  • shirazi I know.In 2011 PPP had started a census which later got cancelled because it was alleged that in some provinces numbers have been inflated.Some districts in sind and balochistan witnessed a much higher higher growth rate than even the national average.



  • Census is constitutional requirement and all resources are allocated based on census numbers. If some districts are flexing numbers that should be addressed but we can't just kill census because few people cheat.



  • 1000s of people living in Karachi for years but they don't have ID card from Karachi...people utilize services here but no where in our record shows how many people lived in Karachi....



  • According to him, the “obsolete” methodology of “door-to-door count” had always been hijacked by militant groups who manipulate figures to their own advantage.

    Who are these "militant groups" that he is referring to here?



  • The issue is if Karachi's population is touching two crores, all dwellers do not have Karachi addresses in their NICs, instead, they have upcountry addresses in spite of the fact they are settled in the city for years and are either doing jobs or business. But for vote casting and census figuration they are included as upcountry dwellers.

    In view of the above, census and Nadra figures can never be matched.



  • Who are these "militant groups" that he is referring to here?


    Noon leg"militant groups" gullobutt, ullobutt, lulloobut, nomibutt group

    PTI"militant groups" bhaloo, laloo, kaaloo group of TTP

    PPP"militant groups" of Lyari gangs: Aziz baloch, shiraz ko,rade, baba ladla group

    and

    and

    and

    last but the least

    SULEMAN DARING group of JI, IJT, ASWJ, J. UD DAWA, Alqaida and ISISIS

    Salloo G Salloo G


    Bolo Saloo g



  • دھنے واد گلزاری لال جی

    آپ شاید جلد بازی میں ایک ہردلعزیز اور نامعلوم عسکری ونگ کا نام لینا تو بھول ہی گئے۔



  • نامعلوم عسکری ونگ

    So u agree with the above list--thx u salloo G

    I complete the list now

    u mean target killers of agencie haramia who killed 10,000

    Salloo G Saloo G, bolo sallo G , es agencia ko ungli na lagaana

    On Dec 5th, ppl of Karachi exposed the target killers. The verdict is there.



  • Gullo Jee,

    Jokes aside but I am still not sure or convinced which militants this PPP guy is referring to in his statement. And if he's talking only in the context of Karachi then may be I can try to speculate little bit whom he mean when he uses the word "militant" in his statement.

    u mean target killers of agencie haramia who killed 10,000

    Gullo Jee, if this was the case then why agencia is now going after their own target killers and nabbing them like flies day in day out.

    And why does MQM feel the pain-in-the-butt whenever agencia captures any of these target killers these days?



  • Gullo Jee, if this was the case then why agencia is now going after their own target killers and nabbing them like flies day in day out.

    پیارے سے سلیمانی ٹوپی والے سلوجی

    میں بھی مذاق نہیں کررہا، جوکچھہ مختلف پارٹیوں کے بارے میں میں نے لکھاوہ ساراشہری سندہ کہتاہے - ہم ان ساری پارٹیوں کودہشتگردوں کی پارٹیاں ہی سمجھتے ہیں

    وہ جنہوں نے کراچی کے اطراف میں لاکرطالبان اورالقائدہ اوردوسری مذہبی جماعتوں کے دہشتگردوں کولاکراہل کراچی سے مقابلے کے لئیے بٹھایاتھا ، اب انہیں ہی کتے بلی کی طرح مارناپڑرہاہے

    اوروہی انپرگولیاں اوربم ماررہے ہیں

    سلوجی سلوجی ، بولوسلوجی