Act against militants or face international isolation, civilians tell military







  • Brain fart of an indophile, this story has been completely rejected by the Government.

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  • @Dar Sahib

    You are right this sounds more like Cyril Almedia's wish list and Chotay Sharif's words. He doesn't have the balls to say all this to the Generals. If it was Nawaz Sharif may be but that's also even a long shot. BTW if the root cause of Pakistan's isolation is not Army's dirty games then it's PM/FM Nawaz Sahrif's utter failure. Feel free to pick one or the other.

    :)

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  • I don't see this kind of courage in younger Sharif to argue with army chief or ISI chief. It may have been a request like the one below and perhaps was misconstrued by the reporter. :-)

    حضور، جان کی امان پاؤں تو عرض کروں کہ امریکا امداد بند کرنے کی دھمکی دے رہا ہے اور چین نے بھی آئندہ حافظ سعید اور مولانا مسعود اظہر کے خلاف سلامتی کونسل میں انڈیا کی قراداد کو ویٹو نہ کرنے کا عندیہ دیا ہے .....پوری دنیا میں تنہا ہونے کا خدشہ ہے .....ادب سے عرض ہے کہ اپنے افسروں کو کہیں کہ اگر پنجاب پولیس دکھاوے کے لیے ان کالعدم تنظیموں کے خلاف کروائی کرتی ہے تو ہمارا پردہ رہنے دیں ...میرا وعدہ ہے کہ ان لیڈروں یعنی فوج کے قیمتی اثاثہ جات کو جیل میں ٹاپ کی سہولیات فراہم کی جائیں گی ...کچھ مہینوں میں معاملہ ٹھنڈا ہوجائے تو میں ہائی کورٹ کے کسی جج سے ان کی ضمانت کرواکے خود اپنی گاڑی میں ان لیڈروں کو ان کے گھر چھوڑنے جاؤں گا



  • @Shirazi1 Are you so naive as to read it as part of fight against militancy. No sir. This is an effort by PPP to lay groundwork for upcoming general elections.

    In last elections PPP lost big in Punjab and KP because of right wing organizations deadly attacks. The space was filled by PTI. MLN will hold middle ground and it is very difficult for PPP to go head on against MLN. So you will see increasing attacks against both PTI and MLN.

    In Sindh, PPP feels safe but they want to have a bigger share in Karachi. They will go soft on MQM and use their financial resources to push forward.

    PTI seems like losing hope thus they sit out the parliamentary debate on Kashmir. They want to shut down Islamabad. They are on road to boycott elections just like in 2008.

    Live and learn.



  • @Pervez Sahib

    Now this PMLN MNA is complaining about gov't not doing enough on Hafiz Saeed. That must be PPP conspiracy too?

    http://www.dawn.com/news/1288400/why-arent-we-taking-action-against-hafiz-saeed-pml-n-lawmaker-asks



  • @Shirazi1 You go out and investigate and then let me know.



  • Fourth denial issued by Gov't in as many days ...

    Khata war sumjhay gi duniya tujhe
    Itni zada safai na deh



  • @Shirazi1

    What is this international isolation "Dawn" newspaper is talking about? It is basically America. Does Russia, China care about it? No.
    Everybody knows that US-Pakistan relation are in a very poor state because of Afghan mess. Aid to Pakistan and sale F16 have been frozen. There was also the demand to limit nukes. The case of Hafiz Saeed seldom gets a mention. Don't you think govt and army have discussed relations with America all these months in some detail.
    In my opinion, this story is another effort by Indian lobby to shift focus from Kashmiri repression to surgical strikes to non state actors.



  • @Pervez Sahib

    Dawn news is talking about isolation? Four of the 6 SAARC members pulled out. China is saying no more technical holdups on Masood Azhar. It's your DG ISI who questioned foreign office for isolation. Foreign Secretary Ch Atiraz said don't blame us we have no answer for your strategic assets policy. DG said arrest whoever you want Shahbaz Sharif said we wish we could. When you say Indian lobby is keeping this story alive are you blaming PM house? Because they are the one keeping it alive by repeated denials.

    Instead of denials both civilians and military could have gave the message we are trying to address the issue. The denials mean the business as usual will continue. The disastrous policies of past 4 decades ain't ending anytime soon.



  • @Shirazi1

    SAARK, what is that? Where does it count? Don't sell trash. Poverty+Poverty=Poverty.



  • Well if SAARC is trash then Pakistan is subset of that trash.



  • @Shirazi1

    You are the one who is sad and crying about SAARK. I say good riddance.



  • In my opinion, this story is another effort by Indian lobby to shift focus from Kashmiri repression to surgical strikes to non state actors.

    Parvez,

    There is a tiny mindset that represent indophilia in Pakistan and Dawn is the cheerleader of that mindset. After surgical blunder the hammering that Modi-led banyas were getting from their own public (Kejriwal, Congress, SP etc) so they asked their assets in Pakistan to plant this story to take off some heat from the drubbings they were getting at home.

    Notice how the entire indo-jingo media carried this story as headlines in contrast to the Pakistani media where except Dawn nobody gave two hoots to this fabricated story.



  • @Shirazi1

    Fourth denial issued by Gov't in as many days ..

    Think from your brain, not from your balls.

    Both army and civilian leadership was present in that meeting based on which this story was fabricated. If that story had any truth in that, did the army leadership needed any proof from any one? Weren't they all including the COAS and DG ISI present in the same meeting?

    Now the discussion is not taking place whether the story is fabricated or not but who is the mastermind of this plant, what were their motives, who asked Dawn to plant this and what actions should be taken against them for compromising national security?



  • ڈان کے صحافی کا نام ایگزٹ کنٹرول لسٹ میں ڈال دیا گیا

    http://www.bbc.com/urdu/pakistan-37615673



  • @Dar Sahib

    What part of the story disturbs you most? The fact that our strategic establishment is not giving up the so called strategic assets or why civilians are confronting them. Knowing your ostrich mentality I won't be surprised if you say there are no strategic assets to begin with.



  • I just watched Dawn News's Zara Hut Kay. They very proudly proclaimed on Cyril Almedia's issue almost whole media is on same page. Really? This Cyril Almedia story is another memogate brewing. In both cases civilian gov't is trying to gain some turf and in both cases media and opposition stood firm by GHQ. No body is focusing on what bloody civilians are saying.

    From media discussions COAS met with PM today and expressed his frustration on investigation on who leaked report to Dawn News. Gov't put name of Cyril on ECL and put pressure on Dawn to take story back but Dawn didn't budge. Army want the culprit who leaked the story sacked. The possible candidates are PM Nawaz Sharif, CM Shahbaz Sharif, Ch. Nisar, or Pervez Rashid. This whole episode will be used to negotiate COAS extension.

    As always media and opposition will stand by military like Miyan Sahib represented GHQ on memogate. What goes around comes around. It's all same old story, GHQ maintains upper hand and civilians give up their territory so easily.