A secular mentality

  • وَإِذَا قِيلَ لَهُمْ لاَ تُفْسِدُواْ فِي الأَرْضِ قَالُواْ إِنَّمَا نَحْنُ مُصْلِحُونَ )

    And when they are told, "Do not spread corruption on earth," they answer, "We are but improving things!" [2:11]

    أَلا إِنَّهُمْ هُمُ الْمُفْسِدُونَ وَلَـكِن لاَّ يَشْعُرُونَ

    Oh, verily, it is they, they who are spreading corruption but they perceive it not? [2:12]

  • This Verses also can be apply on Political Islamist/Khilafati/Jamati/Talbani who are making problems ,Kill people when you ask them they say اْ إِنَّمَا نَحْنُ مُصْلِحُونَ

  • Once a Sahabi ( R A ) who was older in age, came to prophet ( Sallalaho alaihe wasallum ) and told him that he faced problems in namaz in the imamat of a imam. because he recite long ayaats and namaz become long, and as he was old so his health didnt allow him for long duration of prayers, Prophet ( sallalaho alihe wasallum ) became angry on that imam, and said to convey him the message that in prayers there are children and old men also, so he should cut short the duration of his namaz. he is making people annoyed from islam.

    See this is islam which our prophet ( sallalaho alaihe wasallum ) has brought, this is shariah e muhammad not the shariah e sufi muhammad and taliban. Taliban are making people mutanaffer from islam, not even non muslims but muslims as well. jo log secular honey ka baar baar tanaa detey hain, wo swat kyun nahi chale jatey.

  • Every Political Islamic group has its "khooni Dastaan " .they start will blood and end with blood ,phir kehtay hain ,Ham tou Islah kernay walay hain .....

  • @usman

    Apply this to Taliban, JI and other apologetics for them.

  • netengr and Fahim

    shoroo mera message Jamatioon ko gali kay sath:

    I have one question from you? do you ever in your life even seen those areas about which you write too many posts. I know that foolish JI mullas are strong in Deer and Malakand but i also know that they are struggling against Taliban and they are not letting them inside their areas.

    May be if someone from Malakand is here at this forum and could correct me.

  • nahhen bhai, islah to secular mqm waalay kar rahay hain.

    yeh hai islah:

    "jo qaid kaa ghaddar hai"

    "woh maut kaa haqdaar hai"

    it means: kill all those who oppose terrorist altaf.

    this is secular islah.

    as a principle:

    criminals are criminals,

    but, in secular mentality only islamists are criminals,

    and secular criminals like terrorist altaf are holy.

  • @Usman and All

    Very relevant ayahs describing the true nature of Seculars/Elitocrats/Capitalists. I wonder how one can defend secular west for what they have been doing to the world. Guys here fail to understand that they are the rulers of the world and after the collapse of USSR there is no one to stop them. But what they are busy in is colonialism, plundering, looting, and killing. But when you ask them why they are doing it, they say we want peace, human rights, and animal right, women rights etc to prevail. Isn’t it blatant lie & hypocrisy!!!

    In fact secular democracy is on retreat and they are using all their available options & resources to stop the Islamic khilafah which is in the making but I just want to tell them and to their pawns that they can only delay the change but can not stop it.

    The whole world is in dire need of an ideological change and only ISLAM can fill the vacuum created by Secularism.

    "Khilafah will re-establish on the method of prophethood" Masnad Ahmed

  • We are being grinded by both sides at one hand we have superpowers and on the other we have ignorant barbarians.

  • in 1988, in JI Dars-e-Quran , Qurani ayaat were used against PPP and Bainazir ,

    After that "Dars-eQuran " was used agasint Nawaz Shareef ,Ayaat against Kuffar and Munafiq were used agasint Nawaz shareef

    2001 - Dars-e-Quran USed against Musharraf

    now against PPP and others .

    Qauran Ki ayaat ko apni Siyasat kay liyeah use kerna aur apnay app ko Islah kernay wala kehna ....Allah kay Azzab ka hi intezaar kerna chahiyeh

  • The religion-glazed political Parties, work like supper store.

    One can get the 'merchandise' of the choice, when needed.

    According to a well established interpretation a woman cannot be accepted as head of the State or Government in an Islamic state.

    They had to compromise and justify the Rule of woman in Islam, where Mohtarma Fatima Jinnah was presidential candidate against Ayub Khan.

    They are smart enough to change Raaga Maulkouns to Ragga Darbari or Raaga Malhar.

  • If a Man work in a foreign company where people from different nations,religion and race work together ,The Owner of this company is non muslim ,but there is no problem to practicing Islam ,People follow islam freely and do their work according to company's laws and follow Islamic values personally .


    Employees see companies affairs as the other non muslim employees and do not bring Religion to make difference with other ,They do not bring religion to get Salary raise ,do not intend to get the power using religion,They fight their dispute according to the policies but do not bring religion .

    Would they be called "Secular " or non Islamic ???

    Country is the same as any organization or company only scale is different .

  • Workers at a French factory of the Scapa group, producing industrial adhesives have taken hostage a number of executives to protest the planned closing of the site in the southeastern town of Bellgarde-sur-Valserine.(08 Apr 2009)

    what is this netengr ????

    Country is the same as any organization or company ???

    is this your company????

    or you belong to another company working in afghanistan, iraq and kashmir ???